410-412 vs. repeating 401


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Re: 410-412 vs. repeating 401

Postby tanouye » Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:33 pm

Thanks, everyone, for your input, and please keep it coming!

We definitely don't schedule 410-412 classes as frequently as 401s, but part of the reason is that they don't sell out as quickly, so I feel like there's less overall demand. Although I realize some of that is 401 demand is higher because there are a lot of people who have never taken 401 before who are also signing up.

For a while, we offered 402, which was an eight-week 401 class for people who had previously taken 401, but it was not a popular option.

It's tricky figuring out what to do after 401, because every student is in a different place -- some have just completed their first 401 and have never practiced outside of class. Some have been in practice sessions since 101 and do improv four nights a week. A lot are in between those two extremes. But all those students have different needs at that time.
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Re: 410-412 vs. repeating 401

Postby JakeHyland » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:36 am

Can't speak for everyone else but I for one had no idea until just recently that 410s even counted towards re-applying.

When my reply said I could take a 410 then reapply I thought it was a typo or that I misunderstood it. Someone else later affirmed I was not crazy and that they do.

I had thought they were only there as an elective to help brush up on whatever you needed work on, but that you'd still had to eventually take 401 again.

I'd always hear people say "I hafta re-take 401" when they talked about re-applying for advanced so I guess it got ingrained and I assumed only 401 counted.

That aside, I think a class show would help sell it. Feels more like a seminar without one.
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Re: 410-412 vs. repeating 401

Postby jackbenimbo » Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:14 pm

Would you guys consider offering any of the 41x courses during the 7-10 pm or weekend time slot? I'd really like to continue my studies expeditiously, but the most recent Game Focused 41x course (which I need) is during normal business hours. Evening scheduling can allow folks like me to improve the problem areas and still keep the job necessary to pay for 1) student loans and 2) improv classes.
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Re: 410-412 vs. repeating 401

Postby JakeHyland » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:18 pm

Actually this is a question, not a comment (but hey maybe a selling point for some?)

Do you get a UCB ID with a 410?
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Re: 410-412 vs. repeating 401

Postby dablyputs » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:50 pm

I took an additional 401 and a 412 at the same time. I feel that the shows and the additional time for a single teacher to see and direct my abilities is the advantage of the 401. I almost felt pressure to be good right away in the 412 where in 401 I felt comfortable to take more risks.
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Re: 410-412 vs. repeating 401

Postby JakeHyland » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:00 am

Also, now that I've been in the market for some time, 410/11/12s seem to be elusive creatures of myth. And even then there's just a 1-in-3 chance that the one you need goes up.

EDIT: And although I haven't taken it yet, I agree with some of the other comments that I'd feel pressure to impress right away in 4 classes versus 8 classes + 3 shows. Especially since presumably whatever 410 you take is probably to address what you're already weakest at.
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Re: 410-412 vs. repeating 401

Postby Mo Pula » Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:16 pm

I took 412 twice, once with Abra Tabak and then again with Kevin Hines, and they were both EXCELLENT and FUN! (And in each case all 16 of the original students stayed for the duration of the course.) I hope to take a 410 if one comes up that fits my schedule.
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Re: 410-412 vs. repeating 401

Postby tanouye » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:06 pm

JakeHyland wrote:Actually this is a question, not a comment (but hey maybe a selling point for some?)

Do you get a UCB ID with a 410?


You DO get an ID.

There is no show requirement, though.
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Re: 410-412 vs. repeating 401

Postby tanouye » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:38 pm

bellylikessoda wrote:Hi Erik,

This is a little off-topic... if I pass 401 but want to take it again with a another teacher and I don't pass the second time, am I no longer eligible to apply to ASH? Or will my previous pass keep me eligible?

Thanks!

Jayme


It would depend why you didn't pass the second time and whether you had already applied for Advanced Study. If you missed too many classes, or didn't meet the show requirement, you would still be eligible to apply if you hadn't done so after your first Improv 401. If you do not pass because the instructor feels you are not ready to complete scene work at this level, then you would not be eligible. This is extremely unlikely, though, since you made it through Improv 201 and already completed a 401 successfully. Unless you somehow got really bad at scene work between your first 401 and second 401.

If you applied after your first Improv 401 and were not accepted to Advanced Study, and then you dropped out of your second Improv 401, you could not apply again.

If you applied after your first Improv 401, and were accepted to the Advanced Study program, I would not recommend taking another Improv 401.
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Re: 410-412 vs. repeating 401

Postby bowhitester » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:00 pm

I was told by the UCB training center that I wasn't allowed to sign up for 412 unless I successfully completed 401 meaning my teacher passed me. So I guess you have to take 401 again if you didn't pass it the first time.
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